Answer To Daf Hashavua Gittin 23a

Gittin 23a


לז"נ הרב מנחם בן הרב שמואל דונט זצ"ל

יום השנה כ"ד טבת             

There is a huge Machlokes  Rishonim* & Achronim**
how reliable טביעות עינא דקלא is. Is it only when it is
מסיח לפי תומו or עדים can testify when
they  heard his voice but never saw him in person ?

if yes is it for דיני ממונות only, for איסור והיתר  only,or 
even for דיני נפשות. 

The Chasam Sofer (Shu"t Ch.M.:2) 
holds the only time we rely on טביעות עינא דקלא is
for spouses to live together at night 

The reason for it is because in an addition 
to  ט"ע דקלא there is also  ידיעת הגופים     
(knowledge of the spouses body  ) 

In all other cases we cannot rely on ט"ע דקלא 
because it is possible to imitate his voice

Perhaps with this Chasam Sofer we can understand 
how we rely on ט"ע דקלא
when two brothers can have same voice or someone 
can imitate the voice,

We only rely where we have a combination of both 
ידיעת הגופים   &   ט"ע דקלא         
       
       



* רמ"ה - רי מיגש ועוד

** פר"ח- קצות-  נתיבות חת"ס ועוד

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