RIDDLE
Parshas Hashavua וישב
When do we have a 5 day fast?
Parshas Hashavua וישב
When do we have a 5 day fast?
THE FIVE DAY FAST
The רמ"א (Y.D. 123: 26) quotes a תשובת הרא"ש,
"If someone drank יין נסך בשוגג, he should
fast 5 days, because It says 5 times גפן in חומש."
Meforshim ask on the רא"ש that there are actually
7 times* “גפן” in the
Torah. Some answer
We exclude 2 which are in Mishna Torah (Devarim)
The אורח מישור argues and claims The רא"ש
says
“in חומש”, Mishna Torah is part of חומש
just
as much as the other four חומשים. It
doesn't make
sense to exclude the Gefens from Sefer
Devarim.
The ב"ח says it’s referring to the five
times it says
גפן at the story of
the שר המשקים.
This is also incorrect It only says twice גפן at
the story of the שר המשקים.
This is also incorrect It only says twice גפן at
the story of the שר המשקים.
The אורח מישור corrects the Girsa in the
ב"ח to read
except for the 2 at the שר המשקים. They are not
part of the count.
except for the 2 at the שר המשקים. They are not
part of the count.
The Chasam Sofer has a lengthy explanation of
why we
exclude the two times it says גפן at the .שר המשקים
exclude the two times it says גפן at the .שר המשקים
(The two Gefens are referring to ירושלים של מעלה
ושל מטה
The truth is that the word גפן appears eight
times*
in the Torah. (in seven Pesukim).
PERHAPS AN EIGHT DAY FAST
Assuming there was a printing mistake in the תשובת הרא"ש
and instead of a ח they printed a ה (common printing mistake)
Perhaps we should change from ה' פעמים to ח' פעמים and would
have to fast 8 days for the eight times it says גפן in the Torah אמבצי
in the Torah. (in seven Pesukim).
PERHAPS AN EIGHT DAY FAST
Assuming there was a printing mistake in the תשובת הרא"ש
and instead of a ח they printed a ה (common printing mistake)
Perhaps we should change from ה' פעמים to ח' פעמים and would
have to fast 8 days for the eight times it says גפן in the Torah אמבצי
*Could be they
meant seven Pesukim with Gefen
**Breishis 40: 9
- 40:10 - 49:11
3
Bamidbar 6:4 - 20:5
2
Devarim 8:8 - 32:32 (twice in same Pasuk)
3
total
8
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